Robert put down his plate as he asked, "Is there a coherent structure to the Kivas. One that's teachable to "others?"

        Alvaro answered, “ I’m not at liberty to  tell you what it takes years to begin and a lifetime to expand. There are however key concepts which are, when comprehended, always with you. There is no set date for actualizing the first set of instructions. There are four Kivas which a person moves through. Only after emerging from one, you enter the other. The knowledge from one expands as you continue into the other.”

      “Is there a curriculum which exists?” Robert sat poised to take notes.

      “I’m trying to answer your questions without being rude.”  Alvaro responded. “ Let me give you an example. You are looking for structure without content. The content helps build the structure.” Alvaro looked at Robert to see if he understood, then continued.  “Content or concepts can often open the door to perceptual awareness. Many people use words as structure.  However, perceptual awareness can bring about the need for words in order to explain or describe what was perceived. This is a cultural difference. The white man comes from one door and we come from another.”

    “In the white man is conditioning which makes him generalize from his way of life to everybody else’s. The Elder told us that comparison always employees judgment . So these judgements lead to a structural basis for life; an understanding of the-way-it-should-be. This comparison causes fragmentation and distortion.” 

-From Neisthes journals  "Into the Night"